Chris has a post on his blog....his blog is way better than mine so see his blog for details of our new "pact". (chrisultra.blogspot.com)
So after day 3 here is what I am reminded of:
I feel sooooo much better when I eat less, no bloating, no heaviness. I'm already sleeping better, less time waking up, wake up feeling more restfull.
eating more at lunch is not good for me. when I eat less at lunch my evening run/walk is much better.
my basic day of eating is as folows:
breakfast of 400-500 calories
lunch of 200 or so calories
supper of 1000 calories
lots of water with each meal
typical week is about 50 miles of running/walking...mostly 50/50% with 2-3days of a 20 mins weight session for general strength for arms and leg curls and leg extension, add in 100 abs and a few strecthes.
A typical day includes running in the morning with dog walking in evening 4- 12 miles a day.
The next 100 days will be interesting to how chris and I do this....I'm sure he'll be checking on me....and I've already seen him out running/walking alot
Wednesday, March 28, 2012
New Challenge - Never Give Up - eating/training
So I was running with chris the other day and told him of a proposal I've been thinking of. we each have our issues with running/training.
Mine is eating too much and weighting more than I want/need to run/feel good/be healthy.
His is training enough and going slow enough to not get injured.
so the new challenge is this: for 100 days
Mine is eating 1700 calories a day, running/walking how I feel.
His is running/walking 50 miles a week ALL under heartrate of 150.
this started Monday March 26, 2012....100 days ends on July 4.
I'll report on my progress at least once a week, but after 2 days I already feel better.
My weight is 226 lbs and waist is 41".....if I can do 100 days of 1700 calories and 50 miles a week I could be in the 180's by July 4 and waist of 35"...it can be done...Never ever give up.
later, jeff
PS: I have some catching up to do on the blog...1) riddlerun results 2) AT hiking trip details
Mine is eating too much and weighting more than I want/need to run/feel good/be healthy.
His is training enough and going slow enough to not get injured.
so the new challenge is this: for 100 days
Mine is eating 1700 calories a day, running/walking how I feel.
His is running/walking 50 miles a week ALL under heartrate of 150.
this started Monday March 26, 2012....100 days ends on July 4.
I'll report on my progress at least once a week, but after 2 days I already feel better.
My weight is 226 lbs and waist is 41".....if I can do 100 days of 1700 calories and 50 miles a week I could be in the 180's by July 4 and waist of 35"...it can be done...Never ever give up.
later, jeff
PS: I have some catching up to do on the blog...1) riddlerun results 2) AT hiking trip details
Saturday, January 7, 2012
RiddleRun 13
I still love to run and that's why I started this race/run/event in the first place. So after year 12 (last year) of having "Not the Riddle Run", put on by my son, this is the call for entry's for RiddleRun 13.
Read below for important information before accepting entry into this event.
Just email me (riddle@illinois.edu) your request to enter so my wife has a list for the cupcakes. See you there, Jeff.
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RiddleRun 13
13th Annual Mahomet Trail 12+ Mile Run and 28+ Mile UltraMarathon Fun-Run
Race motto: "A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame and money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well."
- G. K. Chesterton
When: 8:05AM sharp!! (according to my watch) on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012
Where: Mahomet Trails, aka, Buffalo Trace Trails, Mahomet, IL. (start/finish at parking lot at far west end of bike path at LOW park - go thru Mahomet on State St. past high school, turn right (north), go ½ mile over I-74 to bike path sign). Mahomet is located at the intersection of I-74 and Highway 47 , exit 172. If you can't find the start line, you'll never finish the course.
Entry Fee: $0.00
Qualifications: (PLEASE READ THE FAQ for you know what you are getting into.) Absolutely you must be low key and fun. You must not be a wimp, a whiner, or a complainer. You must not give excuses, die, get hurt or sue. If you are, or do, any of these things you will be disqualified and not eligible for any awards.
Awards: $1Million dollars (hey, if the government can create money out of thin year, why can't we!!) ......all you have to do is finish the race under the current world record for the marathon held by Patrick Makau (kenya) in 2hours 3 mins 38 seconds (that's 4:21 mile pace for 28,4 miles)......in addition, we do have a traveling trophy that the male and female winner get to keep, but not use, for a year.
Appearance Fees: None this year, unless you can convince me you deserve one.
Race History:
On Jan. 27, 2000 history was made as 12 runners actually showed up and started. Dave Brady ran 2:20 for the 12.16 mile w/ 4 finishers. Jeff Riddle ran/walked/crawled 8:40:32 for the 28.38 mile w/ 1 finisher. Norm and Joyce Yarger drove down from Northern Illinois. Tom Rice took pictures of the 2-5' snow drifts.
On Jan. 28, 2001 history was made again as race entrants doubled to 24 runners with Dave Scott taking the beginner 12.16 mile in 1:47:35 (course
record!!) with 18 finishers and 3 DNF. In a classic race to the death, Spencer Nelson shattered the previous course record for the advanced fun run of 28.38 miles running 4:40:50 (a 9:53 mile pace) with 2 other finishers in hot pursuit. 21 runners recorded "DNF's." No out of state runners showed.
On Jan. 26, 2002 history was made for the third time as 53 runners showed and 4 no shows took to the easy course with horrible winter weather of 55 degrees. With conditions like this 11 finished the 28.38 mile advanced run with 38 DNF's. Dave Scott smashed the course record with a 3:52:14, 8:11 mile pace!! A few out of state runners actually came this year.
On Jan. 25, 2003 history was made for the fourth time as a record-breaking crowd of 81 entered with 62 showing up. Dave Scott repeated as men's champ in 4:06 and Becky Dey and Kristi Bergman becoming the first ever female finishers, Becky winning in 5:45. 14 finished the advanced run, with only
48 DNF's. Bright sunshine and 9 degrees was enjoyed by most.
On Jan. 31, 2004 history was made for the fifth time as 53 of the 84 people signed up actually was brave/crazy enough to show up and run in the -10-degree sunny weather. Dave Scott again won for the 3rd time in a row in 4:28, as 12 finished the ultra of 28.38 miles. With Dave's win he reached "legendary status" and was presented a certificate from the race committee. 41 people left as DNF'd. The controversy of "is RiddleRun a real ultra" was put to rest as Dave Scott said this year's run was the toughest he had ever finished .
On Jan. 29, 2005, history was made for the sixth time as 80 of 107 people braved the icy surfaces and snow. A few people fell, and got bloody, and one brother of mine complained and whined, and thus very disqualified!! Jack Pierce, in spite of the conditions broke the course record in 3h 49m 27s. A record 22 people finished the full 28.38miles..Marla Luckey become the second female winner breaking the course record in 5:34...Bruce Winter shattered the record for slowest run ever in 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 45 seconds...yes you read correctly...see the FAQ.
On Jan. 28, 2006, history was made for the seventh time as 79 cupcakes made and all enjoyed. Weather was bad - 40's, never rained much or got real windy, a pretty dull day weatherwise. This, I'm sure, caused the 20 no-shows of people that signed up. As it settled 68 started and 11 finished the fun run with 57 DNF's. Jeff Kelly at 3.48.34 was 1st male and Marla Luckey at 4.31.45 was 1st female, for 2nd year in a row, both course records. We enjoyed another Mark Daly production at the start with Lonesome Larry of 98.3 FM doing the national anthem, which included a perfect fly over performed by 10 geese!! I do not know how Mark arranged that, but it was great!!
On Jan 27, 2007, history was made for the eighth time as 70 starters braved very windy conditions of 20-25 mph and 28-33 degrees with patches of ice and snow. The conditions did not slow down Brett Graham (3:54) and Marla Luckey (4:28) who won for the 3rd year in a row, breaking her own course record. 14 finished the advanced fun run and 56 were DNF. Once again Mark Daly arranged to national anthem. It was so windy the fire never caught on.
On Jan 26, 2008, history was made for the ninth time in record fashion as a record102 entered with 93 starters in normal winter conditions. 105 cupcakes were made by my wife, without any help from me. 13 finished, including 5 first time ultra distance finishers. Matt Condron, 3:39:18 and Ellen Erhardt, 4:18 shattered course records. There were 80 DNF's , also a record. Chris Peacock won the first cupcake running 36:30 for his only loop, then eating his cupcake in 1.5 seconds. 1,289.49 miles were recorded.
On Jan 31, 2009, history was made for the tenth time as the following records were set: entrys 125, DNF's 127, cupcakes made by my wife 130, DQ's 2, starters 102. Rob Raquet-Shofield won his first RR in 4.56.42 and Becky Kaston also won her first in 5.32.01. Bruce Rodgers finished the first ever loop on crutches....conditions were average for the day at 5 degrees with sanded snow....Steve O'Connor and wife put up a soup tent...as usual I did nothing. My wife later made me a nice hardbound book of photo's and quotes from the race.
On Jan 30, 2010, history was made for the 11th time as the following records were set: 89 starters of 94 entrys. Matt Small won his first RR in 3.58.30 and Kristy Powell also won her first in 4:18 (which tied the course record!!) Conditions were average for the day at 25 degrees and some wind, pretty dull....Steve O'Connor and wife put up a soup tent...as usual I did nothing. 14 finshed the full distance with 2 people from Atlanta, Georgia running a marathon distance (they were doing the 50 marathons in 50 states).
On Jan 29, 2011, history was changed as "Not the RiddleRun" training run took place with 38 people (and 7 finshers) showing up to enjoy terrible nice weather to run. This low key publisized event came about after the RR race committee became stubbornly selfish and pouty, and refused to put on the event. The son of the RR race director became upset and so he put together this training run. Inspired by john f. kennedy and martin luther king an arousing pre-race speech set the runners took off with Brian Kuhn and Elloit Brinkman recording the fastest time of 4.57.58 and Andrea Stack 1st female in 5.37.08.
Weather: Coldest, Warm, Cold, very cold, very warm, COLD, all possible due to global cooling/warming/mother nature/GOD's plan/ whatever you want to believe, usually windy, record low about -25/-65 wind chill, record high about +55. Hope for snow with drifting of 5' possible.
Course: Very Easy - "Moses Tanui" loop course of 4.0544 miles on rolling grass and dirt cross country paths thru 260 acres of a conservation area, consisting of praireland, drainage ditches, bushes, trees, holes, no concrete, ruts, etc...this year more rocks and roots!!! If temp is above 32 there will be mud. You might fall; get dirty, bloody and wet. The course is easy to follow and will be marked, if I'm in the mood, (NOTE: I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE MOOD) but you better be able to read a map, or you can run with someone for the first loop. You have the option to run the loop backwards after the first loop if you want. You can run the inner loop any direction you want. I found out the first year that white paint and white snow go together too well. **(for all you out there familiar w/ the "Ngugi" 5 mile loop, "Tanui" loop is same except turn right over the gravel culvert after about 2.3 miles instead of left up the hill)
NOTE: This past year 3 bridges were built at 3 ditch crossing so the course is even easier than ever.
Distances: 1 to 7 loops
12 +MILE RUN - 3 loops - (actual 12.1632) Again, please remember, this run is for "beginning" runners.
28+ MILE FUN-RUN - 7 loops - (actual 28.3808) This run is for advanced
runners and continues on for 4 more loops after the "beginner" 12 mile 3 loop run is completed.
Cutoff Time: Any time Saturday. But, it gets dark about 4:52 PM so you have 8h 47 min. to finish the Advanced Run before dark. That's about 18:33 pace per mile for the advanced runners. Note: I used to say no cutoff time but Bruce Winter took advantage of that one year...see the FAQ.
Aid: None - BYOA - (bring your own aid) each loop will go by your car in the parking lot. Be aware that water freezes when temps are below 32 (very likely). Bring your own water bottle. We will not have cups or volunteers -nobody's that crazy.
Timing: There will be a clipboard (in my car) for you to write down your name and time after each completed loop. As usual, try to write neat. I know your fingers may be frostbitten but it helps to be able to read your times. I would hate to disqualify you for unreadable times. Wear a watch to keep your own time....and keep the watch running, no stopping it at each aid stop. No one will be counting your loops for you.
Remember, cheaters never prosper!!
Facilities: None. (The park has a rest room and water fountain located 1/10 mile off the course on the east side of the loop, but it may be locked and water is usually turned off in the cold winter months).
Amenities: You have a chance to see herds of deer, fox, turkey, buffalo, possum, coyotes, wildcats (I think I saw one in 1986, really), rabbits, squirrels, dogs, snakes, skiers, hikers, skunks, and Tom Rice, our former award winning newsletter editor and AT section hiker.
Results: I will tabulate the results and may send them to CU- Buffalo list and second wind.
The Peacock Rule: "A runner, if signing up the race for 3 years in a row, and never even starting the race, will thereafter be disqualified from ever attending another Riddle Run event" (unless I give an exception)
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
1. How does your wife get the cream filling in the cupcake??
Several people has asked me that question....but, like they say, if I told I'd have to kill you.
2. Is this a real run??
Yes. Seriously, it is for real, but just don't get too serious about it.
3. Is the course accurate??
Yes!! If you do not believe me, you can measure it yourself.
4. Do I have to run all the loops??
No. Walking is allowed.
5. I mean, do I have to cover the entire 3 or 7 loop run to get a result listed??
I see what you mean. No, if you only do 1 or 5 loops just record your time and you will be in the results for time/distance, butyou will be designated, as "DNF" did not finish the full distance of 28.4miles.
6. The first year, I noticed that the run organizer was also the 28 mile winner??
Funny how you noticed that. I went as slow as I could but still no one went any faster.
7. I heard the weather was "good " the first year??
Yes, the stories from the people who were there get better and better as the years go by.
8. Will any famous runners be there??
Just many of the world famous Buffalo.
9. Someone told me the race was cancelled one year because of "bad" weather??
Serious consideration was given in 2002 when the temps were near 50 degree, but.. As they say " The race must go on!!"
10. Will there be a "previous champions dinner" the night before??
Maybe in year 10, if we all make it that far.....well we did and we did not.
11. Will there be a "past finishers dinner"??
We're checking but have not found a banquet hall large enough to handle this number of people.
12.Will there be an "expo" the day before with all sorts of vendors, speakers and give-aways??
We're checking but have not found a banquet hall large enough to handle this number of people.
13.Will there be any hot tubs, jacuzzi's or dancing girls or do we need to bring our own??
Spencer, your alive!!!, the race committee has spent many hours discussing and researching this issue and have determined this would be illegal aid, which means if you did this, you would be disqualified from any chance of a award.
14. Do heavyweights get 2 cupcakes??
No, Byroni, for the 8th year in a row, no!!
15. Will there be a Clydesdale division??
No, Byroni, for the 8th year in a row, no!!
16. Will Chris Peacock eat the first cupcake?? I hear Chris has been training all year eating cupcakes real fast, so NO, he will not eat the first cupcake this year.
17. Does Chris Byron have a chance to win this year??
No, is he even running??
18. Did Becky Kasten actually ever finish this race??
Yes, proudly in 2007, 2008 and 2009.
19. Is there a cutoff time??
I told Bruce Winter in 2005 there was no cut-off time and being the fast 5K runner Bruce is he told me he would finish sometime on Wednesday.
20. Rumors are surfacing about a book called "The Complete Truthful History of RiddleRun...the hard life and times of Past Riddle Run Champions" coming out soon?? NO
21.As the committee was sorting thru the race files of the past years, many interesting emails and storys have surfaced from RiddleRun, some true, some not so true.......the committee has hired a top-notch writer to try and sort thru them all, we'll see.?? RR race committee has implemented a hiring freeze so the top-notch writer could not be hired.
22. You are a mean guy for DNF'ing people for not going 7 loops when they never had any intention on finishing 7 loops...it is not fair, what are you going to do about it?? I will continue to be the mean cut throat guy that I have always been so please do not enter the race if you cannot handle the rules. You are taking this way too serious.
23. Can we change this year's race (2010) to the furlough classic?? No, If we did we would have to do it on a Friday or Monday.
24. We heard this race is world renowned, how can that be??....so says the UI Men's media guide for Cross Country, just look it up.
25. Is it true that Illinois runner Angela Bizzari, 2009 NCAA women's cross country champion runs on the RR course?? Yes, while we cannot prove that training on the RR course made her the champion, it is true the NCAA champion ran on the RR course on a regular basis. PS: it should be noted that world cross counry champion Craig Virgin, also trained on the RR course in late 1970's.
More Info: Call Jeff at 586-5398 (evenings) or 244-3019(days).
Don't ask the park about the runs, they don't know anything about it yet.
Read below for important information before accepting entry into this event.
Just email me (riddle@illinois.edu) your request to enter so my wife has a list for the cupcakes. See you there, Jeff.
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RiddleRun 13
13th Annual Mahomet Trail 12+ Mile Run and 28+ Mile UltraMarathon Fun-Run
Race motto: "A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame and money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well."
- G. K. Chesterton
When: 8:05AM sharp!! (according to my watch) on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012
Where: Mahomet Trails, aka, Buffalo Trace Trails, Mahomet, IL. (start/finish at parking lot at far west end of bike path at LOW park - go thru Mahomet on State St. past high school, turn right (north), go ½ mile over I-74 to bike path sign). Mahomet is located at the intersection of I-74 and Highway 47 , exit 172. If you can't find the start line, you'll never finish the course.
Entry Fee: $0.00
Qualifications: (PLEASE READ THE FAQ for you know what you are getting into.) Absolutely you must be low key and fun. You must not be a wimp, a whiner, or a complainer. You must not give excuses, die, get hurt or sue. If you are, or do, any of these things you will be disqualified and not eligible for any awards.
Awards: $1Million dollars (hey, if the government can create money out of thin year, why can't we!!) ......all you have to do is finish the race under the current world record for the marathon held by Patrick Makau (kenya) in 2hours 3 mins 38 seconds (that's 4:21 mile pace for 28,4 miles)......in addition, we do have a traveling trophy that the male and female winner get to keep, but not use, for a year.
Appearance Fees: None this year, unless you can convince me you deserve one.
Race History:
On Jan. 27, 2000 history was made as 12 runners actually showed up and started. Dave Brady ran 2:20 for the 12.16 mile w/ 4 finishers. Jeff Riddle ran/walked/crawled 8:40:32 for the 28.38 mile w/ 1 finisher. Norm and Joyce Yarger drove down from Northern Illinois. Tom Rice took pictures of the 2-5' snow drifts.
On Jan. 28, 2001 history was made again as race entrants doubled to 24 runners with Dave Scott taking the beginner 12.16 mile in 1:47:35 (course
record!!) with 18 finishers and 3 DNF. In a classic race to the death, Spencer Nelson shattered the previous course record for the advanced fun run of 28.38 miles running 4:40:50 (a 9:53 mile pace) with 2 other finishers in hot pursuit. 21 runners recorded "DNF's." No out of state runners showed.
On Jan. 26, 2002 history was made for the third time as 53 runners showed and 4 no shows took to the easy course with horrible winter weather of 55 degrees. With conditions like this 11 finished the 28.38 mile advanced run with 38 DNF's. Dave Scott smashed the course record with a 3:52:14, 8:11 mile pace!! A few out of state runners actually came this year.
On Jan. 25, 2003 history was made for the fourth time as a record-breaking crowd of 81 entered with 62 showing up. Dave Scott repeated as men's champ in 4:06 and Becky Dey and Kristi Bergman becoming the first ever female finishers, Becky winning in 5:45. 14 finished the advanced run, with only
48 DNF's. Bright sunshine and 9 degrees was enjoyed by most.
On Jan. 31, 2004 history was made for the fifth time as 53 of the 84 people signed up actually was brave/crazy enough to show up and run in the -10-degree sunny weather. Dave Scott again won for the 3rd time in a row in 4:28, as 12 finished the ultra of 28.38 miles. With Dave's win he reached "legendary status" and was presented a certificate from the race committee. 41 people left as DNF'd. The controversy of "is RiddleRun a real ultra" was put to rest as Dave Scott said this year's run was the toughest he had ever finished .
On Jan. 29, 2005, history was made for the sixth time as 80 of 107 people braved the icy surfaces and snow. A few people fell, and got bloody, and one brother of mine complained and whined, and thus very disqualified!! Jack Pierce, in spite of the conditions broke the course record in 3h 49m 27s. A record 22 people finished the full 28.38miles..Marla Luckey become the second female winner breaking the course record in 5:34...Bruce Winter shattered the record for slowest run ever in 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 45 seconds...yes you read correctly...see the FAQ.
On Jan. 28, 2006, history was made for the seventh time as 79 cupcakes made and all enjoyed. Weather was bad - 40's, never rained much or got real windy, a pretty dull day weatherwise. This, I'm sure, caused the 20 no-shows of people that signed up. As it settled 68 started and 11 finished the fun run with 57 DNF's. Jeff Kelly at 3.48.34 was 1st male and Marla Luckey at 4.31.45 was 1st female, for 2nd year in a row, both course records. We enjoyed another Mark Daly production at the start with Lonesome Larry of 98.3 FM doing the national anthem, which included a perfect fly over performed by 10 geese!! I do not know how Mark arranged that, but it was great!!
On Jan 27, 2007, history was made for the eighth time as 70 starters braved very windy conditions of 20-25 mph and 28-33 degrees with patches of ice and snow. The conditions did not slow down Brett Graham (3:54) and Marla Luckey (4:28) who won for the 3rd year in a row, breaking her own course record. 14 finished the advanced fun run and 56 were DNF. Once again Mark Daly arranged to national anthem. It was so windy the fire never caught on.
On Jan 26, 2008, history was made for the ninth time in record fashion as a record102 entered with 93 starters in normal winter conditions. 105 cupcakes were made by my wife, without any help from me. 13 finished, including 5 first time ultra distance finishers. Matt Condron, 3:39:18 and Ellen Erhardt, 4:18 shattered course records. There were 80 DNF's , also a record. Chris Peacock won the first cupcake running 36:30 for his only loop, then eating his cupcake in 1.5 seconds. 1,289.49 miles were recorded.
On Jan 31, 2009, history was made for the tenth time as the following records were set: entrys 125, DNF's 127, cupcakes made by my wife 130, DQ's 2, starters 102. Rob Raquet-Shofield won his first RR in 4.56.42 and Becky Kaston also won her first in 5.32.01. Bruce Rodgers finished the first ever loop on crutches....conditions were average for the day at 5 degrees with sanded snow....Steve O'Connor and wife put up a soup tent...as usual I did nothing. My wife later made me a nice hardbound book of photo's and quotes from the race.
On Jan 30, 2010, history was made for the 11th time as the following records were set: 89 starters of 94 entrys. Matt Small won his first RR in 3.58.30 and Kristy Powell also won her first in 4:18 (which tied the course record!!) Conditions were average for the day at 25 degrees and some wind, pretty dull....Steve O'Connor and wife put up a soup tent...as usual I did nothing. 14 finshed the full distance with 2 people from Atlanta, Georgia running a marathon distance (they were doing the 50 marathons in 50 states).
On Jan 29, 2011, history was changed as "Not the RiddleRun" training run took place with 38 people (and 7 finshers) showing up to enjoy terrible nice weather to run. This low key publisized event came about after the RR race committee became stubbornly selfish and pouty, and refused to put on the event. The son of the RR race director became upset and so he put together this training run. Inspired by john f. kennedy and martin luther king an arousing pre-race speech set the runners took off with Brian Kuhn and Elloit Brinkman recording the fastest time of 4.57.58 and Andrea Stack 1st female in 5.37.08.
Weather: Coldest, Warm, Cold, very cold, very warm, COLD, all possible due to global cooling/warming/mother nature/GOD's plan/ whatever you want to believe, usually windy, record low about -25/-65 wind chill, record high about +55. Hope for snow with drifting of 5' possible.
Course: Very Easy - "Moses Tanui" loop course of 4.0544 miles on rolling grass and dirt cross country paths thru 260 acres of a conservation area, consisting of praireland, drainage ditches, bushes, trees, holes, no concrete, ruts, etc...this year more rocks and roots!!! If temp is above 32 there will be mud. You might fall; get dirty, bloody and wet. The course is easy to follow and will be marked, if I'm in the mood, (NOTE: I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE MOOD) but you better be able to read a map, or you can run with someone for the first loop. You have the option to run the loop backwards after the first loop if you want. You can run the inner loop any direction you want. I found out the first year that white paint and white snow go together too well. **(for all you out there familiar w/ the "Ngugi" 5 mile loop, "Tanui" loop is same except turn right over the gravel culvert after about 2.3 miles instead of left up the hill)
NOTE: This past year 3 bridges were built at 3 ditch crossing so the course is even easier than ever.
Distances: 1 to 7 loops
12 +MILE RUN - 3 loops - (actual 12.1632) Again, please remember, this run is for "beginning" runners.
28+ MILE FUN-RUN - 7 loops - (actual 28.3808) This run is for advanced
runners and continues on for 4 more loops after the "beginner" 12 mile 3 loop run is completed.
Cutoff Time: Any time Saturday. But, it gets dark about 4:52 PM so you have 8h 47 min. to finish the Advanced Run before dark. That's about 18:33 pace per mile for the advanced runners. Note: I used to say no cutoff time but Bruce Winter took advantage of that one year...see the FAQ.
Aid: None - BYOA - (bring your own aid) each loop will go by your car in the parking lot. Be aware that water freezes when temps are below 32 (very likely). Bring your own water bottle. We will not have cups or volunteers -nobody's that crazy.
Timing: There will be a clipboard (in my car) for you to write down your name and time after each completed loop. As usual, try to write neat. I know your fingers may be frostbitten but it helps to be able to read your times. I would hate to disqualify you for unreadable times. Wear a watch to keep your own time....and keep the watch running, no stopping it at each aid stop. No one will be counting your loops for you.
Remember, cheaters never prosper!!
Facilities: None. (The park has a rest room and water fountain located 1/10 mile off the course on the east side of the loop, but it may be locked and water is usually turned off in the cold winter months).
Amenities: You have a chance to see herds of deer, fox, turkey, buffalo, possum, coyotes, wildcats (I think I saw one in 1986, really), rabbits, squirrels, dogs, snakes, skiers, hikers, skunks, and Tom Rice, our former award winning newsletter editor and AT section hiker.
Results: I will tabulate the results and may send them to CU- Buffalo list and second wind.
The Peacock Rule: "A runner, if signing up the race for 3 years in a row, and never even starting the race, will thereafter be disqualified from ever attending another Riddle Run event" (unless I give an exception)
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
1. How does your wife get the cream filling in the cupcake??
Several people has asked me that question....but, like they say, if I told I'd have to kill you.
2. Is this a real run??
Yes. Seriously, it is for real, but just don't get too serious about it.
3. Is the course accurate??
Yes!! If you do not believe me, you can measure it yourself.
4. Do I have to run all the loops??
No. Walking is allowed.
5. I mean, do I have to cover the entire 3 or 7 loop run to get a result listed??
I see what you mean. No, if you only do 1 or 5 loops just record your time and you will be in the results for time/distance, butyou will be designated, as "DNF" did not finish the full distance of 28.4miles.
6. The first year, I noticed that the run organizer was also the 28 mile winner??
Funny how you noticed that. I went as slow as I could but still no one went any faster.
7. I heard the weather was "good " the first year??
Yes, the stories from the people who were there get better and better as the years go by.
8. Will any famous runners be there??
Just many of the world famous Buffalo.
9. Someone told me the race was cancelled one year because of "bad" weather??
Serious consideration was given in 2002 when the temps were near 50 degree, but.. As they say " The race must go on!!"
10. Will there be a "previous champions dinner" the night before??
Maybe in year 10, if we all make it that far.....well we did and we did not.
11. Will there be a "past finishers dinner"??
We're checking but have not found a banquet hall large enough to handle this number of people.
12.Will there be an "expo" the day before with all sorts of vendors, speakers and give-aways??
We're checking but have not found a banquet hall large enough to handle this number of people.
13.Will there be any hot tubs, jacuzzi's or dancing girls or do we need to bring our own??
Spencer, your alive!!!, the race committee has spent many hours discussing and researching this issue and have determined this would be illegal aid, which means if you did this, you would be disqualified from any chance of a award.
14. Do heavyweights get 2 cupcakes??
No, Byroni, for the 8th year in a row, no!!
15. Will there be a Clydesdale division??
No, Byroni, for the 8th year in a row, no!!
16. Will Chris Peacock eat the first cupcake?? I hear Chris has been training all year eating cupcakes real fast, so NO, he will not eat the first cupcake this year.
17. Does Chris Byron have a chance to win this year??
No, is he even running??
18. Did Becky Kasten actually ever finish this race??
Yes, proudly in 2007, 2008 and 2009.
19. Is there a cutoff time??
I told Bruce Winter in 2005 there was no cut-off time and being the fast 5K runner Bruce is he told me he would finish sometime on Wednesday.
20. Rumors are surfacing about a book called "The Complete Truthful History of RiddleRun...the hard life and times of Past Riddle Run Champions" coming out soon?? NO
21.As the committee was sorting thru the race files of the past years, many interesting emails and storys have surfaced from RiddleRun, some true, some not so true.......the committee has hired a top-notch writer to try and sort thru them all, we'll see.?? RR race committee has implemented a hiring freeze so the top-notch writer could not be hired.
22. You are a mean guy for DNF'ing people for not going 7 loops when they never had any intention on finishing 7 loops...it is not fair, what are you going to do about it?? I will continue to be the mean cut throat guy that I have always been so please do not enter the race if you cannot handle the rules. You are taking this way too serious.
23. Can we change this year's race (2010) to the furlough classic?? No, If we did we would have to do it on a Friday or Monday.
24. We heard this race is world renowned, how can that be??....so says the UI Men's media guide for Cross Country, just look it up.
25. Is it true that Illinois runner Angela Bizzari, 2009 NCAA women's cross country champion runs on the RR course?? Yes, while we cannot prove that training on the RR course made her the champion, it is true the NCAA champion ran on the RR course on a regular basis. PS: it should be noted that world cross counry champion Craig Virgin, also trained on the RR course in late 1970's.
More Info: Call Jeff at 586-5398 (evenings) or 244-3019(days).
Don't ask the park about the runs, they don't know anything about it yet.
Monday, November 21, 2011
Summary of AT hike
Day Mile/Acum Location startELmaxELELgain
M 1 20.6/20.6 Cooper Gap 1715' 3720' 5709'
T 2 18.8/39.4 Neels Gap 2801' 4299' 4970'
W 3 10.9/50.3 Low Gap 3058' 3756' 3267'
TH 4 15.0/65.3 Tray Mt 3170' 4512' 7399'
F 5 15.5/80.8 Plumborchard 4382' 4391' 5983'
SAT 6 19.8/100.6 Carter Gap 2999' 5317' 6829'
SUN 7 15.7/116.3 Winding Stair 4431' 5111' 4406'
Totals 7 days = 116.3 miles (107.5 on AT) 38,563' EL gain
Average elevation gain per mile = 331'
Day 1 - springer approach trail, falls, 600+ steps, passed on water
yelling couple at night, canvas tent, army jeeps, light rain
Day 2 - "hand stand", northern lights, damascus dave, running man, older couple, blood mt, blouders, dark, hostel, pirate, fog, smoker
Day 3 - easy day, the ellis family, grandpa, laughter, snoring, bats, 2 bears in tree, bear hunters, rolling mountains
Day 4 - papa jay, lonestar, wildman, getting the shuttle, rain at night, slipped going down unicoi, rocky mt, tray mt, blue mt, smokers
Day 5 - Bert, drunk, stories, chain smoker, 3 level shelter, good water, kelly knob, knobs are evil steep knuckles, virginia/greg lane doing trail work w/mahomet daughter, pretty morning
Day 6 - Ga/NC state line, bly gap, steep, steep steep!!! old twisted tree, trail angels young couple 1 liter water, standing indian mt, long ups and long downs, sun
Day 7 - Albert mt, scramble to the top, 700' in .3Mile, fire tower, 360 views, smoky mts in the distance, long nice flat sections, ough last climb then down, trail angel Eric, cheese burgers, Gene "Shuttles", stories of German man and more, in car driving home all night, eat, tired.
What a week!!
Daily details to follow.
M 1 20.6/20.6 Cooper Gap 1715' 3720' 5709'
T 2 18.8/39.4 Neels Gap 2801' 4299' 4970'
W 3 10.9/50.3 Low Gap 3058' 3756' 3267'
TH 4 15.0/65.3 Tray Mt 3170' 4512' 7399'
F 5 15.5/80.8 Plumborchard 4382' 4391' 5983'
SAT 6 19.8/100.6 Carter Gap 2999' 5317' 6829'
SUN 7 15.7/116.3 Winding Stair 4431' 5111' 4406'
Totals 7 days = 116.3 miles (107.5 on AT) 38,563' EL gain
Average elevation gain per mile = 331'
Day 1 - springer approach trail, falls, 600+ steps, passed on water
yelling couple at night, canvas tent, army jeeps, light rain
Day 2 - "hand stand", northern lights, damascus dave, running man, older couple, blood mt, blouders, dark, hostel, pirate, fog, smoker
Day 3 - easy day, the ellis family, grandpa, laughter, snoring, bats, 2 bears in tree, bear hunters, rolling mountains
Day 4 - papa jay, lonestar, wildman, getting the shuttle, rain at night, slipped going down unicoi, rocky mt, tray mt, blue mt, smokers
Day 5 - Bert, drunk, stories, chain smoker, 3 level shelter, good water, kelly knob, knobs are evil steep knuckles, virginia/greg lane doing trail work w/mahomet daughter, pretty morning
Day 6 - Ga/NC state line, bly gap, steep, steep steep!!! old twisted tree, trail angels young couple 1 liter water, standing indian mt, long ups and long downs, sun
Day 7 - Albert mt, scramble to the top, 700' in .3Mile, fire tower, 360 views, smoky mts in the distance, long nice flat sections, ough last climb then down, trail angel Eric, cheese burgers, Gene "Shuttles", stories of German man and more, in car driving home all night, eat, tired.
What a week!!
Daily details to follow.
Sunday, November 20, 2011
(Part 2) Vacation- Hiking in the Great Smoky Mountains and on the AT
Part 2 of vacation - Hiking the AT with Tom
Note: Prior to this trip I had only backpacked twice for 1 night each and never multiple days. Tom has done several multi-day hikes and on the AT in Virigina. I was glad to have Tom along, as I would never do this alone.
Sunday 9-18-11
After finishing a very nice 8 days with my wife in the Smoky Mountains it was on to meeting Tom to start our hike in Georgia on the AT. Sunday was a long travel day as Debbie and I drove from Townsend to Kuttawa, KY (300miles) to meet Tom who was driving my car from home to pick me up (280 miles) and head south to Amicalola Falls state park, GA (another 320 miles). Approx miles/time from home to GA was 600 miles/9.5 hours.
We got there at 6:20pm ET and signed in the AT book as section hikers. My trail name was "Guide Boy" (name from my lovely wife) and Tom was "Bison Tom" (what else would he be??) We settled into the Max Epperson shelter on the start of the AT approach trail, which is about 9 miles up to Springer Mt, which is the offical start of the AT. Yes, we had to hike that far before we even started the AT!! Tom got a fire going, it was 65deg and cloudy. We hung our food by rope in a tree. This was day 1 of not shaving, Tom told me you can't shave on a backpack trip. I listened to Tom since he has the backpacking experience. It was 9pm ET when we layed down to sleep. As we layed down Tom asked me if I knew about shelter mice??
Note: Prior to this trip I had only backpacked twice for 1 night each and never multiple days. Tom has done several multi-day hikes and on the AT in Virigina. I was glad to have Tom along, as I would never do this alone.
Sunday 9-18-11
After finishing a very nice 8 days with my wife in the Smoky Mountains it was on to meeting Tom to start our hike in Georgia on the AT. Sunday was a long travel day as Debbie and I drove from Townsend to Kuttawa, KY (300miles) to meet Tom who was driving my car from home to pick me up (280 miles) and head south to Amicalola Falls state park, GA (another 320 miles). Approx miles/time from home to GA was 600 miles/9.5 hours.
We got there at 6:20pm ET and signed in the AT book as section hikers. My trail name was "Guide Boy" (name from my lovely wife) and Tom was "Bison Tom" (what else would he be??) We settled into the Max Epperson shelter on the start of the AT approach trail, which is about 9 miles up to Springer Mt, which is the offical start of the AT. Yes, we had to hike that far before we even started the AT!! Tom got a fire going, it was 65deg and cloudy. We hung our food by rope in a tree. This was day 1 of not shaving, Tom told me you can't shave on a backpack trip. I listened to Tom since he has the backpacking experience. It was 9pm ET when we layed down to sleep. As we layed down Tom asked me if I knew about shelter mice??
Saturday, November 19, 2011
(Part 1) Vacation- Hiking in the Great Smoky Mountains and on the AT
From Sept 10 to Sept 26 I was able to spend my vacation hiking in the Smoky Mountains with my wife then hiking part of the Appalachian Trail (AT) in Georgia and North Carolina with a friend Tom. The 2 weeks were a contrast of luxury accomodations the first week to primitive take everthing you need on your back the second week. All in all it was one of the best vacations I've ever had.
I plan to do a 2 part report, Part 1 - 8 days in the Smokies with my wife Debbie then Part 2 - 7 days of section hiking the AT with Tom.
Day 1 - Sat -spent most of day driving 526 miles from home to Townsend
8h 50 min)
2 miles total 350 ' elev gain
5pm - .5 mile up to look rock observation tower then down .5
7:30pm - 1 mile in cades cove on rich mountain trail, getting dark
settled into our cabin for the week.
beautifull in the mountains
Day 2 - Sun - 61 degrees foggy then cleared later 56-62 at c. dome
13.5 total miles 3100' elev gain
8:30am- Run 4.5 miles chestnut top trail out/back 60 mins, first .5 mile is uphill, nice run/walk.
noon - hike 9 miles out/back on the AT at clingman's dome 6h 48total time with stops to look at the beautifull views and to all the people out hiking, meet section hikers, day hikers and the AT ridge runner Doug McFalls, great talking and hiking...a nice day. Saw 4 bear along road driving back.
Day 3 - Mon - 62 - 80 degrees, nice day
10.6 total miles, 2035' elev gain
10:15am - hike Curry Mt. trail to lumber ridge, gradual up and back down.
6h 24 min...a little tired...tomorrow an easier day.
Day 4 - Tue - 56-80 degrees, nice sunny day
8.2 miles total 1584' elev gain
8:20am - run lumber ridge tr at tremont, 2h 1min, 35 mins cont uphill run at start then run back after 4.1 miles, nice run
noon- drove over to fontana lake to kayak and swim- lots of fun...
NOTE: met a thru-hiker going south "hand stand" Tom and I later meet him as he finished his last day on the trail.
Day 5 - Wed - 56-62 degrees
10.8 miles total - 3050' elev gain
8am - hike Mt LeConte via alum cave tr....nice steady hike, 8h 30 min lots of people...saw big bear on trail, it ran away down the mountain...b-u-t-full views all the way up and at the top...this is one of our favorite hikes.
Day 6 - Thur - 62 - rain predicaed today - go to town day.
4.5 miles total - 860' elev gain
8:15am - run chestnut top 60 mins same as Sun...this is my standard running trail because it is accessible from the cabin.
Day 7 - Fri - 52-62 degrees
8.1 miles total 2411' elev gain
10:15am - hike ramsey cascades to big waterfall/cascade...we have done this 3 times before...its a good one...saw a voluntneer who helps maintain this trail 4 times a year. he had a light, a pick and a pack. he lives 90 mins away. if we even lived here, adpting a trail would be great fun. a bear wanted some of the peoples food (chilli) at the top. he was scaried away, then came back but never bothered us or showed aggresive behavior.
Day 8 - Sat - 55-79 degree w/ sun
7miles total hike
10am- hike to Spruce Falls by tremount , steep sections 2010'elev. gain in 2.5 miles
1:30pm- hiked in cades cove part trail to an old cabin and then down sparks road loop
Our Smokey Mountain vacation ended on Sat. Lots of fun with a good varity of trails hiking and running. Amazing every time I come here I feel stronger even after 1 week.
in 8 days totaled 64 miles w/ alot of elev gain. met some neat people.
Next post will cover part 2 of my vacation: Hiking the AT with Tom.
I plan to do a 2 part report, Part 1 - 8 days in the Smokies with my wife Debbie then Part 2 - 7 days of section hiking the AT with Tom.
Day 1 - Sat -spent most of day driving 526 miles from home to Townsend
8h 50 min)
2 miles total 350 ' elev gain
5pm - .5 mile up to look rock observation tower then down .5
7:30pm - 1 mile in cades cove on rich mountain trail, getting dark
settled into our cabin for the week.
beautifull in the mountains
Day 2 - Sun - 61 degrees foggy then cleared later 56-62 at c. dome
13.5 total miles 3100' elev gain
8:30am- Run 4.5 miles chestnut top trail out/back 60 mins, first .5 mile is uphill, nice run/walk.
noon - hike 9 miles out/back on the AT at clingman's dome 6h 48total time with stops to look at the beautifull views and to all the people out hiking, meet section hikers, day hikers and the AT ridge runner Doug McFalls, great talking and hiking...a nice day. Saw 4 bear along road driving back.
Day 3 - Mon - 62 - 80 degrees, nice day
10.6 total miles, 2035' elev gain
10:15am - hike Curry Mt. trail to lumber ridge, gradual up and back down.
6h 24 min...a little tired...tomorrow an easier day.
Day 4 - Tue - 56-80 degrees, nice sunny day
8.2 miles total 1584' elev gain
8:20am - run lumber ridge tr at tremont, 2h 1min, 35 mins cont uphill run at start then run back after 4.1 miles, nice run
noon- drove over to fontana lake to kayak and swim- lots of fun...
NOTE: met a thru-hiker going south "hand stand" Tom and I later meet him as he finished his last day on the trail.
Day 5 - Wed - 56-62 degrees
10.8 miles total - 3050' elev gain
8am - hike Mt LeConte via alum cave tr....nice steady hike, 8h 30 min lots of people...saw big bear on trail, it ran away down the mountain...b-u-t-full views all the way up and at the top...this is one of our favorite hikes.
Day 6 - Thur - 62 - rain predicaed today - go to town day.
4.5 miles total - 860' elev gain
8:15am - run chestnut top 60 mins same as Sun...this is my standard running trail because it is accessible from the cabin.
Day 7 - Fri - 52-62 degrees
8.1 miles total 2411' elev gain
10:15am - hike ramsey cascades to big waterfall/cascade...we have done this 3 times before...its a good one...saw a voluntneer who helps maintain this trail 4 times a year. he had a light, a pick and a pack. he lives 90 mins away. if we even lived here, adpting a trail would be great fun. a bear wanted some of the peoples food (chilli) at the top. he was scaried away, then came back but never bothered us or showed aggresive behavior.
Day 8 - Sat - 55-79 degree w/ sun
7miles total hike
10am- hike to Spruce Falls by tremount , steep sections 2010'elev. gain in 2.5 miles
1:30pm- hiked in cades cove part trail to an old cabin and then down sparks road loop
Our Smokey Mountain vacation ended on Sat. Lots of fun with a good varity of trails hiking and running. Amazing every time I come here I feel stronger even after 1 week.
in 8 days totaled 64 miles w/ alot of elev gain. met some neat people.
Next post will cover part 2 of my vacation: Hiking the AT with Tom.
Friday, September 9, 2011
Great Smoky Mountains.....Clinton Lake.....& "Red Ball" Jets
Early tomorrow morning, Debbie and I, head to the great smokey mountains for our vacation. We can't wait to get there. The excitement of driving thru Maryville and looking to the left to see the mountains in background is a great relaxing feeling. We are driving straight thru this year because we only have 7 days this year (Debbie has to work).
We will do daily day hikes of 8-16 miles with day packs. Bears, it appears, are very active this year. We will see. Not sure what mountains we'll climb but for sure Mt. Le Conte again.
After, the mountains I'm going back packing with my friend Tom for 6-7 days on the AT starting in Georgia, maybe going 120+ miles. The next 2 weeks will be great adventure.
This year, maybe I'll even run a little in the mountains.
Last Saturday I ran Clinton Lake 10 mile trail in 1:58:20 my first time under 2 hours since 2-28-2005!! I'm getting in shape, good aerobic shape. My foot is okay, a litle sore when I go faster but as long as I skip the intervals I'm okay. I have been more sore on the in-step, though, and my ankle feels stiff.
I'll call the "Red Ball Jet" syrdrome. Remember those shoes in the sixies?? I knew if I just come have those shoes I could run FAST!! That's the people who wore them said and the TV showed. So I begged my mamma for some "red ball jets" Finally I got them, and I just know I was running faster, I just knew it. Of course, I was not.
In the 1970's frank shorter was the world's top marathon runner, olypmic champ. He wore Tiger jayhawks. I just had to have those shoes. If I did I just knew I could meet my goal of sub 3 hour marathon. I got the shoes and they were light super light, small heel lift, comfortable and could do my long runs of 20 miles at 8 min pace. I just knew I could go from 3:23 to sub 3 with these shoes, if Frank Shorter all 132 lbs could go 2:10, I could go sub 3 at 152 lbs. In the end I could only go 3:07.
Killian Journet is the latest great ultra runner, from Spain, young, light weight, fast, runs light and easy fast uphills and down mountains. his video's on salomon running channel are some of the best I've seen. So, surely its his shoes, the Solomon cx crossmax, a cushion shoes, looks great, supportive on rocks, just what I need to protect my feet and go FAST!! Wait, my feet do not need support and I like light weight shoes...no, no , no...I need those shoes to protect my feet, look at killian run!! After my first run my feet, hip, ankle hurt in strange places, my in-step was sore, a wierd sore....yes,I was once again victimized by the "red ball jet" syrdrome.
We will do daily day hikes of 8-16 miles with day packs. Bears, it appears, are very active this year. We will see. Not sure what mountains we'll climb but for sure Mt. Le Conte again.
After, the mountains I'm going back packing with my friend Tom for 6-7 days on the AT starting in Georgia, maybe going 120+ miles. The next 2 weeks will be great adventure.
This year, maybe I'll even run a little in the mountains.
Last Saturday I ran Clinton Lake 10 mile trail in 1:58:20 my first time under 2 hours since 2-28-2005!! I'm getting in shape, good aerobic shape. My foot is okay, a litle sore when I go faster but as long as I skip the intervals I'm okay. I have been more sore on the in-step, though, and my ankle feels stiff.
I'll call the "Red Ball Jet" syrdrome. Remember those shoes in the sixies?? I knew if I just come have those shoes I could run FAST!! That's the people who wore them said and the TV showed. So I begged my mamma for some "red ball jets" Finally I got them, and I just know I was running faster, I just knew it. Of course, I was not.
In the 1970's frank shorter was the world's top marathon runner, olypmic champ. He wore Tiger jayhawks. I just had to have those shoes. If I did I just knew I could meet my goal of sub 3 hour marathon. I got the shoes and they were light super light, small heel lift, comfortable and could do my long runs of 20 miles at 8 min pace. I just knew I could go from 3:23 to sub 3 with these shoes, if Frank Shorter all 132 lbs could go 2:10, I could go sub 3 at 152 lbs. In the end I could only go 3:07.
Killian Journet is the latest great ultra runner, from Spain, young, light weight, fast, runs light and easy fast uphills and down mountains. his video's on salomon running channel are some of the best I've seen. So, surely its his shoes, the Solomon cx crossmax, a cushion shoes, looks great, supportive on rocks, just what I need to protect my feet and go FAST!! Wait, my feet do not need support and I like light weight shoes...no, no , no...I need those shoes to protect my feet, look at killian run!! After my first run my feet, hip, ankle hurt in strange places, my in-step was sore, a wierd sore....yes,I was once again victimized by the "red ball jet" syrdrome.
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